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style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Paliga:</span> Rotacismul din română e un fenomen al latinei postclasice, </span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;">Alexandru: CORECT.</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;">Alexandru: </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial,
'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">cum e și căderea lui b/v intervocalic. </span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;"> CORECT PARTIAL </span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Amestecati evolutiile (succesive) ale lui b si v unde lucrurile nu stau la fel, dar nu e in
topicul discutat</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> E corect pentru ca "la sfarsit" au disparut ambele. Nu e corect ca le amestecati evolutia.</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;"><br></span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Paliga:</span> Traca cert nu a avut așa
ceva.</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px; font-weight: bold;">Alexandru: CORECT</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Paliga:</span> toate elementele autohtone cu v/b intervoalic și cu l intervocalic le păstrează în română, eu nu pot identifica nici măcar un singur exemplu care să confirme repetarea fenomenului
în elementele autohtone, ca în latina postclasică</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Alexandru: </span><span style="font-weight: bold;">INCORECT.</span> </span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> 1. Odata cu NU enumerati care sunt acele cuvinte "trace fara rotacism la -l-intervocalic" pentru care sunteti obligat sa aratati pentru fiecare, ca "au avut intr-adevar -l- si nu altceva la momentul rotacismului" si ca totusi "nu au fost rotacizate" . </span></span></div><div
id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> (numai ca in general ati evitat sa dati orice regula, orice cronologie a transformarilor si orice exemplu, asa ca...)</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> Dar pentru ca spuneti ca "toate cele intrate din substrat in Latina Balcanica" n-ar avea rotacism : Iata 2 contra-exemple viezure (Alb. vjedhull) si mazare (alb. modhull) sunt exemple de rotacism acolo unde albaneza are -ll- (modhull, vjedhull) -ll- ce provine din -l-intervocalic </span></div><div
id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">De ce la origine aveam un -l- intervocalic?</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">---------</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Pentru ca in Albaneza NU exista -ll- care sa provina din -r- sau -rr- . Exista doar -ll- care sa provina din -l- intervocalic si din unele clustere de tipul -Cl- sau -lC-, -Vl-, -lV- (va pot trimite studiile daca e nevoie, aveti o lista a autorilor mai jos). Si da,
intr-adevar e nevoie de cunoasterea evolutiei istorice a albanezei si a proto-albanezei studiata independent de cuvintele comune cu romana.</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Numai asa se poate intelege de ce in viezure si in mazare la origine avem un l-intervocalic. </span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Fara acest studii citite si asimilate , nu se poate deduce acest lucru. </span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size:
13px;">Caci a folosi doar romana cum incercati sa faceti dvs. mai sus, ca argument e un non-sens,, </span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">caci in romana "orice r e r" indiferent de originea lui si nu se poate deduce de unde provine caci nu scrie pe el "r din l" sau "r din r" sau "r din altceva".</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Iar orice -intervocalic pe care il vedeti astazi poate ca n-a fost "l" acum 2000 de ani, asa cum il cosniderati dvs. mai sus.</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><br></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',
'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> //---------- Acum lasand la o parte exemplele de mai sus ci vorbind doar dpdv logic</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> 3. Au intrat toate aceste cuvinte (viezure, mazare, malai, caciula etc..) din Traca in Latina Balcanica sau nu, inainte de rotacism amestecandu-se cu soare, moale, el ? Au Intrat ! (de ce? pentru ca de ex. modhull - mazare are o-albanez pt. a-romanesc, </span></span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">nu dezvolt aici subiectul dar asta este argumentul ce ne indica vechimea intrarii lui mazare de
exemplu in Latina Balcanica)</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> APOI, Din momentul, in care au intrat inainte de Rotacizare in Latina Balcanica, din acel moment vorbim doar de Latina Balcanica si punct, Deci, din acel moment, a reinvoca "Traca" si lucruri care "ar fi mers in paralel prin foentica Latinei Balcanice intre doua seturi de cuvinte tarce si netrace" e lipsa de logica.</span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> Apoi, lasandu-le pe b/v la o
parte, (dar si acolo "il amestecati pe b cu v" ca sa va dau o sugestie despre locul unde gresiti) si continui sa ma refer doar la topic, la l-intervocalic : </span></span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"> Deci, au intrat aceste cuvinte care au azi -l- in Romana (azi fiind caciula, malai etc...) in Latina Balcanica inaintea Rotacismului ? Au intrat !</span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue',
Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"> Si-atunci de ce Nu au si aceste cuvinte </span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">(care sunt azi: caciula, malai etc...)</span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">rotacismul? daca l-ar fi avut pe "l-intervocalic" cum afirmati?</span><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;"> Si Daca "erau intrate Deja in Latina Balcanica" (cum amandoi am afirmat) ? </span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida
Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"> A sustine ca "aceste cuvinte </span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">(caciula, malai etc...)</span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">nu au avut rotacismul la -l- pentru ca erau trace" e o lipsa de logica dupa ce oricine poate vedea succesiunea temporala de mai sus: ne aflam deci in plina epoca Romana si aceste cuvinte (azi </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">caciula, malai etc...)</span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"> apartineau DEJA Latinei Balcanice la acel moment exact ca *madzula si *viedzulu care au suferit rotacismul la fel ca si orice alt
cuvant </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">cu l-intervocalic </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">Latin la origine (*sole) sau strain (*palanga), existent in Latina Balcanica.</span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">caciula, malai etc...nu au suferit rotacismul </span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> in Latina Balcanica </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">pentru ca-l aveau pe
-ll- si nu pe -l- (ca si ellu, molle etc..) </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">(repet </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">in Latina Balcanica pentru ca acolo sunt deja aceste cuvinte la acest moment de timp, deci a invoca "traca" pentru ele, la acest moment de timp, e un nonsens) </span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">madzula si *viedzulu</span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size:
13px;">cu l-intervocalic au suferit rotacismul exact ca </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">*sole sau *palanga </span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> </span><span style="font-size: 13px;">Tot</span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;"> in Latina Balcanica tocmai pentru ca-l aveau pe l-intervocalic </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">(repet Tot </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">in Latina Balcanica pentru ca acolo sunt deja aceste cuvinte la acest moment de timp, deci a invoca "traca" pentru ele, la acest moment de timp, e un nonsens) </span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"> Inca odata: ne aflam in Latina Balcanica si nu in afara ei, cand se-ntampla toate aceste lucruri </span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span
style="font-size: 13px;"><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Studille pe care le cereti le gasiti la:</span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> Orel, E.Hamp, Rasmussen ca asa citez doar cativa din afara tarii </span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">iar la noi la: Hasdeu, Rosetti, G. Brancus, I.I.Russu care spun acelasi lucru. </span><span
style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></span></span></div><div id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="font-size: 14pt;"><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">(Eu unul, nu am tupeul sa vi le indic "pe ale mele" cand le avem pe cele semnate cu numele celor de mai sus, (desi ele exista si un mic copy-paste l-ati si vazut la atestarea lui *argella si la argumentatia de acolo, sper sa folositi referinta corecta pentru protoformele *argella cu -ll- pentru argea si *andrella pentru andrea), </span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande',
sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Deci cred ca cel mai bine e sa ne restrangem intr-o discutie doar la cele larg (re)cunoscute </span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Apoi aceste lucruri s-au descoperit prima data cum 140 de ani si s-au reluat de atunci de nenumarate ori.</span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">Nimeni nu le-a pus la indoiala de-atunci: asta ca sa clarificam ce scrie si in studiile de specialitate
recunoscute, pe care le invocati ca ati avea nevoie sa le cititi.</span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><br></span></span></div></span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px;">Si da, Aveti dreptate! Nu are rost sa continuam, </span><span style="font-size: 13px;"> atunci cand la argumentele unuia, celalalt fara sa aduca nici un argument (reguli fonetice, exemple, cronologii) sfarseste </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">prin a sari "la altceva" (ex. g^aga etc..),
tocmai </span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13px;">din cauza lipsei de argumente.</span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">Imi pare rau sa v-o spun dar asta e
adevarul.</span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">Pacat ca lingvistica a ajuns sa aibe o soarta atat de trista in mediul universitar de la noi.</span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;">Numai bine, </span></div><div
class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;"> Marius Alexandru</span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329" id="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_11_1395845075438_9" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span style="font-size: 13px; background-color: transparent;"><br></span></div><div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31114 yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_48329"
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class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19025 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31118" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19026 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31119" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:33 PM, k177de <k177de@yahoo.de> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <div class="yiv9792142579y_msg_container"><div id="yiv9792142579"><div dir="ltr">
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<div class="yiv9792142579yqt6632380319" id="yiv9792142579yqtfd90187"><div style=""><b>From:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="alexandru_mg3@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:alexandru_mg3@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:alexandru_mg3@yahoo.com">alex mg</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 23, 2014 5:32 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="k177de@yahoo.de" ymailto="mailto:k177de@yahoo.de" target="_blank" href="mailto:k177de@yahoo.de">k177de</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="sorin.paliga@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:sorin.paliga@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:sorin.paliga@gmail.com">Sorin Paliga</a> ; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" title="discutii@dexonline.ro" ymailto="mailto:discutii@dexonline.ro" target="_blank" href="mailto:discutii@dexonline.ro">Discuț
ii DEX online</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [dex] Întreaga discografie</div></div></div></div><div class="yiv9792142579yqt6632380319" id="yiv9792142579yqtfd47547">
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<div><span>scuze cititi va rog:</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19035 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31128" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;">"Nu exista nici un cuvant Slav in Albaneza(dial.) care
sa indice un r-intervocalic ce provine din n"</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial">On Sunday, March 23, 2014 6:30 PM, alex mg
<alexandru_mg3@yahoo.com> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div>
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<div>Buna ziua, </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19042 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31135" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"> </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19043 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31136" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">1.
AC - 'after Christ' (mai uzual este AD 'anno Domini') opus lui BC - 'before
Christ'. </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31137" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Trebuia
sa spun, <span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;">ca sa nu fie confuzii,</span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"> 'era noastra' (en) sau 'dupa nasterea lui
Cristos' (imi cer scuze). </span></div>
<div style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">Deci e vorba de 700-800 era
noastra. </div>
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<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19048 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31141" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">2.
Totusi e>ia/ie este o transformare foarte veche pe care o
intalnim si la Daci pe vremea lui Decebal </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_48 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19049 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31142" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"> </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19050 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31143" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Exemple:</div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19051 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31144" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">a.
- Diegis 'generalul lui Decebal' => "Arzatorul, Ferventul"<span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">
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< din <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/lrc/ielex/X/P0380.html">PIE *dHegWH- 'a arde'</a> (dati click)<br clear="none"></div>
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<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19055 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31148" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">
- In albaneza avem djeg 'a arde' </div>
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(in Albaneza j este notatia pentru semi-vocala română i) </div>
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(deci e > ie/ia e prezent si in Albaneza)</div>
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<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19059 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31152" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">
- in română avem e>ie,ia atat in cuvinte dn Substrat </div>
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cat si in cuvintele mostenite din Latina </div>
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Ro. viezure (Alb. vjedull) dar si latinele Ro. fier, fiere, miere etc...</div>
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<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19063 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31156" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">b.
- dielena, skiare (nume de plante la Daci, vezi Dioscoride)</div>
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<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19065 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31158" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">3.
Transformarea e>ie,ia este unul dintre exemplele lingvistice cele mai
puternice care ne arata ca "limba Celor Care s-au Romanizat in Balcani" era
inainte de Romanizare inrudita sau aceeasi cu "Daca" si cu "Proto-Albaneza" (la
venirea lui Traian in Dacia, proto-albaneza avea doar unele diferente dialectale
fata de Substratul-Romanei )</div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19066 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31159" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"> </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19067 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31160" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">4.
Deci <span style="FONT-SIZE:14pt;">"</span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">Teoria formarii poporului roman din Daci
si Romani" nu este deloc un Mit (asa cum le place unor lingvisti straini si/sau
majoritatii ungurilor sa zica) </span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_121 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19070 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31163" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19072 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31165" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">Transformarea e > ie,ia este
dovada VIE ca asa au stat lucrurile si este primul argument care trebuie aratat
</span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">oricui contesta originea
noastra Daco-Romana.</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_127 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19075 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31168" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19077 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31170" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">Aceasta deoarece transformarea e>ie,ia
la (CU vechimea indicata mai sus) NU mai apare la nici un alt popor balcanic sau
european, antic sau mai modern, din proximitatea noastra, in afara de Romani,
Daci si Albanezi.</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19079 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31172" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19081 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31174" style="font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;">5. Restul transformarilor de mai sus sunt "mai noi"
</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_83 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19083 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31176" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;">
: <span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19085 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31178" style="font-family: helvetica;">kl > kl', rotacismul la r si
(partial) rotacismul la n</span></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_83 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19086 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31179" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_91 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19088 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31181" style="font-family: helvetica;"><br clear="none"></span></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19089 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31182" style="font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">DAR si aici trebuie
mentionat ca toate sunt petrecute inainte de venirea Slavilor in Balcani (571
AC) </span><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">si ca
toate se regasesc intr-un fel sau altul si in Albaneza</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19092 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31185" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"></span> </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19094 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31187" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">kl => Ro.Comuna
kl' , PAlb </span>kl' <span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><-> Ro.
chi, Arom. cl' , Alb. q (pronuntat intre Ro. chi si Ro. ci)</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_165 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19097 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31190" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_165 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19099 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31192" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">(acum poate vedea si d-l Cozac de ce
Romana si Aromana sunt dialecte: pentru ca impart aceleasi transformari fonetice
comune si pentru ca au "vocabularul vechi" comun intr-o proportie
uriasa)</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_144 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19101 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31194" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19103 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31196" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">l-intervocalic
=> Ro. r, Alb. ll</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_144 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19105 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31198" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">(d-le Cozac te rog
verifica transformarea asta si pentru Aromana si vei gasi Arom. r)</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_144 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19107 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31200" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19109 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31202" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">n-intervocalic
=> Ro.(dialectal) r ( retras recent din r la n, in Daco-Romana incepand cu
sec XVI, </span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">
dar pastrat in Istro-Romana) </span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_161" style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">
<-> Alb. (dialectal) r<br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19114 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31207" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19116 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31209" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">Popa Grigore din Măhaci
(langa Turda) scria pe vremea lui Mihai Viteazul </span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19118 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31211" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="FONT-SIZE:18px;BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">mâră (pt. mână) si lură
(pt. lună) , la fel se vorbea in Maramures, in Moldova etc..</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19120 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31213" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19121 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31214" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"></span><br clear="none"> </div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19122 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31215" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19123 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31216" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">Nu
exista nici un cuvant Slav in Romana </span><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19124 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31217" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">care
sa aibe un r-intervocalic ce provine din l sau n intervocalice (cum avem soare
din latina sau viezure din substrat) </span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19125 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31218" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19126 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31219" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19127 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31220" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19128 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31221" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;">Nu
exista nici un cuvant Slav in Albaneza(dial.) care sa indice un r-intervocalic
ce provine din r (cu exceptia a 2 cuvinte disputate pentru ca sunt deloc
sigure ca provenind din Slava)</span><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19129 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31222" style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;"> </span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19130 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31223" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19131 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31224" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19132 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31225" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19133 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31226" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">Acest
lucru ne mai indica un lucru important: si-anume ca viezure era intrat "de o
vreme buna" in Latina Balcanica </span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">inainte de venirea Slavilor in Balcani
(571) si ca el nu este deci un imprumut din Albaneza in Romana (cum le palce
unora sa indice)</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19135 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31228" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">caci la 300-400 EN existau in Balcani doar
Daci, Traci, Romani si Greci (si probabil ce mai ramasese din Iliri)
</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19137 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31230" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19138 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31231" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19139 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31232" style="font-size: 18px; font-family: helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19140 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31233" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">De
aceea, cred ca ar fi un proiect important (pentru dexonline, pentru Romania in
general) sa puna pe internet toate </span><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19141 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31234" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">textele
de limba romana veche cu fotocopii ale manuscriselor trecute in text chirilic si
transcrise alaturi in romana, pentru ca in final sa avem "Un Dictionar Complet
al Limbii Romane Vechi" cu trimiteri complete la textele vechi</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19142 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31235" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19143 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31236" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">Nu
stiu in ce masura se poate face usor rost de aceste fotocopii din Bibliotecile
Nationale.</span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_9_1395581022119_148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19144 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31237" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19145 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31238" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent;"><br clear="none"></span></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31239" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'lucida grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent;">Numai bine.</span><br clear="none"></div>
<div class="yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_19148 yiv9792142579yui_3_13_0_ym1_1_1395845075438_31241" style="font-size: 19px; font-family: helveticaneue, 'Helvetica Neue', helvetica, arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">
Marius
Alexandru</div></div></div></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div> </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>